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Cake day: June 10th, 2023

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  • Eeeeeh i largely disagree. We can objectively measure the world, and 99% of the time what we see is close enough to what we can measure with stuff like spectrometers.

    There’s a reason we consider optical illusions noteworthy: They’re edge cases, different from our usual experience of largely accurately perceiving the world. And the vast majority of the time these optical illusions have to be specifically created, they don’t tend to just appear in nature.



  • Same, i simply cannot find any other explanation for it. Apparently a significant amount of the population cannot do white-balancing in their head.
    I have to assume they still experience the more physical white-balancing from light depleting the stuff in cone cells though: that thing where if you close one eye for a bit while looking at a sunny landscape, then open it and compare to the other eye by alternating which one you close; you’ll see the world tinted… i think it’s blue-green-ish and red-ish depending on the eye. Different tint depending on the eye, at least.



  • I see it as obviously black and blue, but i think the idea that anyone sees navy blue is a misconception and leads to much of the confusion. What i instinctively interpret it as is something closer to sky coloured, but clearly blue.

    The black is a bit different because it’s very clearly showing up as golden to the camera, but 1) it would be a very fucking ugly colour of lacing, 2) the photo is clearly taken in strongly coloured bright lighting so it’s pretty obviously not the colour it looks like, and 3) it’s a pretty safe assumption that any dark lacing is just pitch black.

    This is basically what i intuitively interpret it as looking like in more normal lighting:


  • as a person who sees it as utterly obviously black and blue, i certainly don’t literally see the same colours as the photo in normal lighting. What i see is precisely the colours you indicate (#7a6642 and #8596bb), but then my brain does white balancing and i interpret the materials as actually looking like this, which is i think quite clearly black and blue, if rather sun-bleached:

    And the original image again for contrast:


  • It’s funny; I have a pretty extreme night light filter (i.e. blue is almost completely removed) and even through that it at best looks… maybe gray and black?
    Then when i turn the filter off it just becomes hilariously obviously blue. Like… It’s blue: you can tell by the way blue light is hitting the retina 🤯. At most i could stretch myself to consider it purple-ish, but that’s just blue with some red mixed in…

    But yeah i can theoretically understand thinking the black is golden, though even then it’s just not quite right for me to ever see it. Like if the light was significantly exaggerated THEN i could probably force my brain into considering the black parts to genuinely be at least dark gold material.