Comrade_Spood

Honestly to me the difference is mostly cultural or vibes, and I just identify with bi vibes more. I feel like the flags encapsulate this difference well

“Nuance” has really just become the other end of “its not that deep.”

I don’t disagree with that, but I also do not feel it is antithetical to also believing that people are entitled to forgiveness by everyone.

People should be able to move past their mistakes and able to grow, but that doesnt mean everyone needs to forgive them. The families whose loved ones were killed by Platner do not need to forgive him, and neither do people who wish to stand in solidarity with those families. But that also doesnt mean we have to hold Platner’s past over his head while ignoring what he has done to grow into a different person.

Thats fair, and yeah you are right that he is not owed forgiveness. I apologize, I was wrong when I said otherwise. Frankly idk why I said anything to the effect he was owed it, that is my bad.

I can agree with you on that lol

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I have already addressed that quote before in a different post. There is an interview where he renounces the beliefs he held in that quote. I do not care enough to dig it up, and if you care enough I trust you are capable of fact checking (this is not intended to be rude).

And I dont believe he should hold power either, but more so because I believe no one should. But I’d argue if someone believes he shouldnt win because of his past, then none of his competition deserve to hold power either as they are just as bad in different ways.

As for forgiveness. Thats your own personal choice so I don’t begrudge you not forgiving him. My issue is it feels most people shitting on him have no intention of ever forgiving him no matter what, and care more about ignoring what change he has made in order to paint him in a worse light. Informing people of his past is good, but not also bringing up how he has addressed and changed from that past is dishonest.

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No, I am highlighting that if you arent going to vote for someone cause you view democrats as fascists (which isnt inaccurate), then you probably arent someone who is going to vote in the first place.

Like if Platner isn’t up to your standards then who is?

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You can just not vote because you don’t agree with it. You don’t gotta accuse everyone of being a neo-nazi. In fact, compared to every other candidate he is the least fashy of them all, which is ironic considering his fascist past.

If you aint gonna vote, then don’t. If you are gonna vote, then I don’t know how you can rationalize voting for anyone but Platner when you can see his competition.

Edit: Like I agree the Dems are fascists-lite pretending to be allies. I aint arguing that. That is an argument about whether or not to vote in the first place. This is an argument about if you are going to vote, who for.

Jesus fucking Christ, I don’t like politicians anymore than the next anarchist but the mental gymnastics it seems most lefties have been doing to convince everyone that Platner is still a bloody thirsty fascist merc is just insane. I dont know how you can be a leftist and not believe people are capable of change.

Like genuinely what is more likely? That Platner is a fascist who is faking support for progressive issues like trans rights, universal healthcare, etc to dupe all the leftists into supporting him; or that he actually has had a change of heart and just is dumb.

Do I trust him? No, but thats because I dont trust any politicians. But I find it a lot easier to believe he isnt the same gun for hire he was before, than to believe he is the only fascist out there that can hide his secret hatred of trans people.

They can pry the lithium from my cold, dead, Mainer hands. But I will be taking at least a few of them with me to Hell.

The rest will perish from the curse of the Paul Bunyan statue, which will awaken like a vengeful Lorax golem.

Theyre talking about the second one

Considering how mean I know cooks can be, anon got off easy lol

Wow, please continue to tell the person living paycheck to paycheck, working in houseless services, living in tourist town, and has never had the money to even step foot outside of New England, how great tourism is. And you very much have stake in the game Mr. “I’ve travelled the world.” You’re literally the person the economy of these places is catering to.

Somebody got a business degree from their local community college (no disrespect to community colleges, major disrespect to business majors). You’re like a rich man telling the poor to count their blessings and pull themselves up by the bootstraps. Fuck off and maybe learn to read before you go trying to lecture me about how great living in a tourist economy is.

I’m the Joker, baby!

Boo!

Fair. Here, they lean way into it. “Vacation land” being the state motto. Camden, Bar Harbor, and Ogunquit being the three worst towns that I am aware of in terms of tourism, but theres plenty more. Lots of homes here are owned by snowbirds (rich people who own summer homes up here and then live in their homes in Florida or whatever in the winter). The economy is already fucked because of the large elderly population, and then its further fucked by all these rich vacationers who each up the housing. All the recreational stuff around here is very tourist adjacent or targeted like skiing, hunting, hiking, etc. Which the lack of third spaces, non-outdoor recreational activities, and most industry being catered to sustaining the elderly or tourists leads to all the young people moving out of state for better opportunities. Which obviously just makes all these problems worse. The place I live, most of the housing is owned by like one or two huge landlord companies too.

That is to say though, I feel like an economy that drifts to tourism like you say, while yes is a tourism economy, I feel it also kinda leans into tourism as a byproduct rather than the goal. Unless you feel thats not the case, idk.